To Ed Portuguese

Greenes Custom Rods & Tackle

Some very impressive fish, I have read some of the comments that you have left for others and I must say that you seem very defensive.  Could this be because some of the fish that you posted were Illegal. CA. law states that you may keep three a year between the length of 46 and 66 inches ALL others must be released ALIVE. You have posted quite a few fish that were not legal.  If you have any questions on the on the rules you can go to the Ca. Dept of fish and game website and get all of the current laws.

Posted by Greenes Custom Rods & Tackle Expert Member created over 6 years ago - last updated over 6 years ago
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Raul S.

I suggest that you remove this quickly before we have another clash on the forums.

Posted by Raul S. Expert Member over 6 years ago - Report Abuse

Nick Santamaria

agreed

Posted by Nick Santamaria Expert Member over 6 years ago - Report Abuse

Ed Portugues

I never take home illegal fish, even game ward's know that i even gave them tip's how to catch sturgeon out there...Remember guy's i do this for fun thats all...

Posted by Ed Portugues Expert Member over 6 years ago - Report Abuse

Henry V

I'll take Ed on his word when he says he release those fish and keeps it legal.

But something about Greene's post got me thinking: how do the CA fish and game authorities keep track of who keeps their sturgeon? Do you have to bring your sturgeon to a weigh in station and register the keepers? Or is it an honor system?

Just wondering

H

Posted by Henry V Elite Member over 6 years ago - Report Abuse

Greenes Custom Rods & Tackle

Re; Henry you are supposed to keep a report card that is issued by the state of California

Posted by Greenes Custom Rods & Tackle Expert Member over 6 years ago - Report Abuse

Henry V

Thanks for the explanation. I've never heard of anything like this and it sounds like it would be impossible to verify. How would they know that anglers aren;t cheating? For example, if I catch five big sturgeon over the course of two months, I could keep all five but only record the biggest three. Do you have to inform authorities of the catch when it's made, and provide documentation - weight, photo, etc? Are there designated sturgeon fishing areas that are heavily monitored by wardens?

Sorry to go on about this, but it's pretty interesting stuff. I guess I should look for a link about it in the CA game and fish site.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Posted by Henry V Elite Member over 6 years ago - Report Abuse

Henry V

Okay, I found it. The Report card system was established in 2007:

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/news/news07/07021.html

There is a daily bag limit of one fish per day. So I can see why you might think Ed is breaking the rules if he posts all his catches as being from a single day. Ed, if you are catching them on different days you should post the right dates to avoid confusion.

Back to the report card system: it comes with three tags. You have to tag the fish you keep. If you are caught with an untagged keeper, then you are in trouble because you either don't have the tags or you used them all up for the year. So that's how they enforce it. It's not just an honor system after all.

It all seems reasonable. I'm not sure what the population numbers are for white sturgeon in CA, but I know that the fish are just making a comeback on the east coast. We might see something like this report card system here too at some point. It's not only to prevent overfishing, but commercial exploitation of sturgeon for caviar. 

Posted by Henry V Elite Member over 6 years ago - Report Abuse

Henry V

Ah! You can see the tags on two of Ed's fish here:

http://www.hooked-in.com/catches/show/9943

You guys got me thinking about this stuff. Thanks. I;m gonna go look for some books about sturgeon/sturgeon fishing when I get the time. The only one I've read is Les Clapypool's novel "South of the Pumphouse."

 

 

 

Posted by Henry V Elite Member over 6 years ago - Report Abuse

Nick Santamaria

well i guess we all learned a lot about stergeon fishing:D.........lol

Posted by Nick Santamaria Expert Member over 6 years ago - Report Abuse

Greenes Custom Rods & Tackle

Indeed

Posted by Greenes Custom Rods & Tackle Expert Member over 6 years ago - Report Abuse

Jessica & Angelo

looking at the stergeon's that ed has caught he's way beyond his limit i just counted 6 for this year alone not counting all the other's its screwed up cause there already loseing there waters pretty soon they will be EXTINCT!!!!!!!! and ed your not helping...

Posted by Jessica & Angelo Elite Member over 6 years ago - Report Abuse

Ed Portugues

Thank you Mr, Henry V....FUN,FUN,FUN,,,enjoy fishing.........

Posted by Ed Portugues Expert Member over 6 years ago - Report Abuse

Henry V

Let me just be clear about this - I'd be the first to criticize if Ed wasn't playing by the rules. I looked over his posts and there is only one time he posted two fish on a single day. That would be illegal if he kept them both. Since neither are tagged in the pics I am assuming he released them both. That is perfectly legal. He's allowed to keep three for the year. In all his photos, there are only two tagged fish. That means he still has a tag left to use for one more keeper. The law says anglers can keep a maximum of three fish. Biologists determined 3 keepers to be the maximum that won;t hurt the fishery. So far as I am concerned, Ed is fishing by the rules. I may be wrong, but I am not a cop or a game warden. 

Here's how it is: Ed didn't clearly explain the rules that apply to sturgeon in California. But the rest of you who criticized him immediately jumped to the worst possible conclusion without even looking at the rules. If you look at the rules, then look at Ed's photos, it seems fairly obvious that he is doing the right thing. So far as I am concerned Ed could have explained the rules more clearly and the rest of you could cut him a little slack.

Personally, I like seeing sturgeon posted here. COntrary to what some believe, they are making a big comeback in our waters. That doesn't mean we should go out and catch them. I'd rather see them all released but the CA law says he can keep 3. Fine. I learned a lot about fishing laws from all this, and we could probably all benefit from hitting the rule books every once in a while so as to stay current of what is going on. The laws change every year these days, and good anglers are informed anglers.

That's my two cents. Now that we hashed it out, let's all go fishing and relax a bit.

 

 

 

Posted by Henry V Elite Member over 6 years ago - Report Abuse

Ed Portugues

Great  job Mr. Henry V...some people like to open their mouth before their eye's''''''but that is the Ugly truth.....

Posted by Ed Portugues Expert Member over 6 years ago - Report Abuse

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